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Thank you, Mrs. Tapia.

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Ready. Ready.

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Now yes, okay, Ready, we're all here.

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Well, start.

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What do we do?

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In the first point, to approve the minutes of the meeting of 15 December.

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Have you seen anything to comment?

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in point 2, to give an account of the Decrees of Mayor signed between December 16 and January 16

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No. No.

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another report on point 3.

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2.025 Report a bar nine eight decrees.

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When I’m always curious to tell you almost later, it’s just that on Christmas holidays I was replaced by Ainhoa, and that the Royal Oier reports on the decree of mayor.

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From December 20 to 29, Ainhoa served as mayor.

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The following two points should also be reported, in this case in relation to the Treasury.

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In this case, report on the execution of the 4th quarter of 2025.

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Gorka, you know, like that, I ask you to give me some headlines, to highlight some ideas.

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Well, in the next point too.

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In this sense, the average payment period is also:

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Will you mention the two points together?

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and then if there's something, a question.

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We'll work them out together

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payment in average term.

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We're in that day.

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the law limits 30 days and in 5.36 days we have paid a total of € 2,000,000.

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we have paid the Invoices of 2,000,000 100 during this quarter, and well, in the usual way, table, there have been no settlement problems.

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This is a document passed in committee.

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Well, as you know, at the end of the year, in the last few days many bills arrive.

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The reality today is another.

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We have a much higher execution, but in short, this is the document that has been passed to you and the liquidation.

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We’re going to do it for a month and we’ll have definitive data there.

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But, well, first of all, in line with what has been said in the other quarters, well, on the income side, we have the special income of the Zapategi area, which this year has been fully executed in chapter 6.

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Also in terms of income, the Foral Fund recalls that this year there has been a significant increase due to the increase in recurrence.

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And on the other hand, direct taxes have gone the way above.

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Yes, in indirect taxes, fewer works have been executed than expected, and then, well, 42% has been slightly lower than in other years.

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Remember that in these cases it is very difficult to get it right and that we take more or less the means of other years when making budgets.

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Not like that, at least to me, if you only have it.

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Nothing special.

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What was said in income, still waiting for definitive data.

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As for the expenses

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it's running forever in execution.

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And yes, this year seems to have been a higher execution than last year.

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Yeah, to us.

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Then we will see in the liquidation that with the data I have today we can be on the verge of non-compliance with the spending rule, that it is possible that the City Council has executed too much in 25 in that comparison of 24-25, which will result, or perhaps will result, in the obligation of a financial economic plan.

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In view of this, on December 2, a Royal Decree was approved in which this economic work or the spending rule was not met.

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Well, in that, financially sustainable investments were defined, where they would be excluded from those calculations.

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We will analyze all this in greater depth in the liquidation, and we will see if, although we will have to make an economic plan today, including all these calculations, in short, what the data will give us.

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That’s the situation at the moment.

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Okay, thank you.

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I don't know.

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I'm here. I'm here.

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Modify

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the candles in terms of expenses, but in investments on the first day, this year at 20:00 in Arrasate and I haven't done it.

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You mentioned that, going through the document today, there have been some changes today, but I don’t know if it was, if it was, or if it was

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yeah, still

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twenty of 100.

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Well, depending.

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Because I want to tell you that it is 20%, yes, but 20% of 7,000,000 € or 2,000,000 € 21%.

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Because then, as far as the spending rule is concerned, the percentages are not looked at, but actually executed.

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No, then yes, yes.

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This year, seven million 600.

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It is not common for investments to have 7,000,000 600 for this municipality.

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Then, 20% of it can be considered majo, on which you can agree.

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But 1,000,000 500 executed investments compared to last year, I think it's half a million more.

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We'll go deeper into the data.

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Execution I just removed it from the app.

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EVE.

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Last year, the financial expenses were 12,000,000 500, and this year 13,000,000 500 1,000,000 € more has been spent.

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This is, after all, what has had to be taken into account when calculating the spending rule.

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This is subtracted from what is financed by other administrations.

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Last year, 500 million were funded.

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This year it has had less funding, because in that subtraction I also lose another half a million.

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We are going from above, according to calculations, and then what we lack now is which of the investments with the financial have been sustainable or what the law says with the financial.

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We're going to put those in there, and that's where the data comes in right now.

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We'll introduce them.

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Without taking into account that I have to go to an economic plan, but what I have said, we have to see which ones should be considered.

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I have not yet done this study on which ones are financially sustainable.

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But all this in the committees.

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And we'll learn that.

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I would like to say that, at the time, we were asking for a credit that we were proud of, even if we saw in the budgets that its implementation would come later, and that it would always be that, that percentage of the implementation table would also be lower.

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And precisely, as the main strategic project of this legislature for us, we decided to request this loan in advance, because if the City Council did not comply at any time with the spending rule or any other rule, it would be obliged to make a financial plan.

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And if you're in a financial plan, you can't borrow.

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Well, at least for us they're on track.

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They were planned for this legislature.

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That's why we did it.

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Well, well, I think that at the time it was a well-made decision, although it has a weight in budgetary execution, and you see it at 20%.

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But he says that an execution of 20% in 2000000 or 7000000 is very different.

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And it also added a lot.

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We all know why the work of the Haurreskola for the fire of the sports center, which is 1000000, is being delayed.

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Are they there then?

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We have the highest amount ever for investments.

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7.000.000.

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And it's running.

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And at least I, with that tranquility, that we leave the main investments of the legislature channeled, even if we do not comply with the spending rule, and that will not affect the objectives and projects that we marked.

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I've spoken, we'll leave it that way.

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Thank you very much, okay.

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i'll pass on Iratxeri's word for point 6.

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Public Domain of Marine-Terrestrial Construction of the Regiment of Altxota in Agina on the Oria River

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and acceptance of prescriptions.

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Well, on July 19, 2024, the processing of the embarcadero of La Alta de La Hagina began.

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It was expensive to occupy the public domain of the sea and land with the request for an administrative stick.

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A request for authorization was also made to the Water Agency, and on March 28, 25, the shipper and the merendero were authorized.

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2.024-On October 10, the Public Land Maritime Domain of the Altzuta Shipyard, held in Kostas, was granted the Administration of Occupation.

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Processing of the application by Royal Decree.

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Mrs. Ubera, the word is yours.

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In one of them the administrative transmission is granted.

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The resolution competence passes from Madrid to the Basque Government and now, on December 4, 2025, the Directorate of Ports, Coasts and Coasts of the Basque Government has sent a proposal for a resolution for the execution of the basic construction project of the Altxota shipyard.

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It establishes the conditions for the Administration to provide the machine for the occupation of the public domain of the sea and land for the construction of the Embarcadero.

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The municipal secretary has also issued a weekly report after the analysis.

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And what is proposed is that the condition of concession be approved in plenary.

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I don't know if anyone needs more explanations.

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Well, that's it.

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Finally, we must accept the conditions imposed by them, in order to be able to occupy it.

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See, so to speak.

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So, in favor

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Mother,

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thirteen votes.

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In favour, therefore, the conditions and requirements of the wife for the occupation of the public domain of the sea and land for the construction of the embarkation in Aginaga on the Oria River are unanimously approved.

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An anecdote at this point.

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If I'm not mistaken.

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We were told from the Government that this was the first dossier that was studied just when the competition was transferred from the Government of Spain to the Government.

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So, well, now that the Agina embargo is going to have it, now that the Competencies issue is up and down, well, look, in this transfer, it seems that the first file has been the Agina embargo, not the Pirache.

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We were told then.

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That's why it cost.

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The delay in the arrival of more is due to the transfer of competences.

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Complete. Complete.

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Well, the next point, point 7, to take action for a fairer and more climate-neutral Europe.

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Ratify the new Covenant of Mayors.

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Ainhoa

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Well, yes, as Rosario said, it's confirmation.

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So we have a confirmation.

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It's something we've ever accepted.

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at its regular session on 29 November 2011, it adopted the Covenant of Mayors, which included a commitment to energy policy in order to go beyond the objectives of EU energy policy.

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Therefore, we currently have a Covenant of Mayors approved.

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Now it's time to ratify.

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Why revalidate?

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The Covenant of Mayors takes a tour.

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it was created in 2008 with the aim of reducing emissions by 20%.

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But, well, throughout its history we could say that these commitments or objectives have been increasing in some way to 40%.

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In three years and in 2020, the Covenant of Mayors established new objectives and commitments.

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Therefore, even if they were attached to the commitment of that time.

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What they are asking is for the City Council to ratify and update.

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What are these commitments?

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set the goal of achieving climate neutrality by 2030, strengthening local resilience to the effects of climate change and addressing energy poverty to ensure affordable, equitable and sustainable energy.

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Therefore, it should be noted that approximately 11,500 municipalities are adhered to this Treaty, which affects a population of 278,000,000 inhabitants at European level.

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And to say a little, in the case of the Autonomous Community, after the accession to the process, it is necessary to make a plan, and that in that process we are 32 municipalities?

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No, then?

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little by little the peoples are ratifying the pact and, at the same time, those who do not make the plan and those who update it.

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Today, with the confirmation of adhesion here we start a three-step process.

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That one is what we are giving you today, that is, to approve the agreement in the plenary of the City Council, to empower the Mayor to sign the letter of accession.

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And then this adhesion must be uploaded to a computer program, giving the name of Benant at the table.

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Okay, that's what he does today, on the one hand, in Perretxi.

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But then we go further.

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Because I mentioned earlier that in 2011 it was a city council, how it joined the pact, and when you join, you commit to make a plan within two years.

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Thus, it was adopted in 2011.

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And in 2013, on July 23, in a special session, the Usurbil Sustainable Energy Action Plan was approved.

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It established a series of guidelines, which, apart from ratifying the Treaty, should also be updated.

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It is true that since the approval of the Plan we have not been inactive for all these years, but they have been granted.

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In recent years we have carried out a number of actions along the lines of work referred to in that Treaty, which I would like to highlight.

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We are changing public lighting to law, and with the last coins we will have all public lighting changed.

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We have increased the generation of renewable energies.

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We have also promoted different mobility models.

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we have a waste collection system that achieved selective collection results of more than 85%.

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We have also taken bold steps in the municipality’s water supply system, making local water available to citizens.

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Work has been done on the recovery of riverside spaces for monitoring energy consumption through the ZIE program.

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Today we have very important data.

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So we're not standing still, and steps have been taken.

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What we have to do now, as we have said before, is to somehow transfer this Energy Plan to the Climate Change and Energy Plan.

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And to do this, we also mentioned it in committee, we do not start from scratch.

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We don't have to suddenly start making a plan.

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There we have the laws of the Autonomous Community, one bar two 0 two four Energy Transition, the Climate Change Law, that is, the one that the populations of more than 5,000 inhabitants must have.

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But it seems to us and many of us here have also participated in the process of consecrating the ecosocial transition, that in it all these lines have been worked on and that there is a lot of work done, in some way consolidating the mission.

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Remember that in the Covenant of Mayors it says that it is neutral to be climatic by 2050.

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We put ourselves, even with the agents and individuals of the people or with all those who have also been part of the opposition in this process of consensus, for 2030, that is, 20 years before.

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We consolidated that mission, but we also marked the lines of work to reach that demand mission.

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I’m not going to talk about them, but there are actions and all with a lot of work.

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Therefore, our goal is to adapt this work to the plan.

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Of course, this plan must include all the plans, all the areas that require it, and if any are missing, it must be completed.

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So, well, that's what we bring today in the Treaty of Ratification.

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But we've added it to the confirmation.

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As you see in the opinion, the first point would be to ratify the accession to the Covenant of Mayors.

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the 2nd would be to specify within the ecosocial transition the Covenant of Mayors and the Usul Climate and Energy Plan required by the Basque Country Law on Energy Transition and Climate Change.

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And, thirdly, to empower the Mayor to sign the aforementioned Agreement on behalf of the City of Joselbo and to transfer this agreement to the Office of the Agreement of Chains.

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I don't know if you have any questions or anything about this,

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not to mention that the plan should have been implemented by February 2026, and that on January 29 we will hardly be able to implement it in time.

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I don't know.

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So far, there may not have been time, but once again, late, you are late.

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Well, we'll probably be making that plan on paper.

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Late, but probably more advanced in many other steps.

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It's true that it has an end date, but right now they're going to start doing it.

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With the most intense work, this office work will take place.

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That is, to take what is on paper.

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I don't think so.

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We would have delayed a lot since that date, but apart from the paper, those lines of work are the most important, that we have them working.

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Hold it. Hold it.

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That's why there's a whole one.

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The process is done and several lines are already in progress.

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Jobs. Jobs.

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That's the most important thing, it's true, as you say.

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But IO has also been notified to him.

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He has passed the report of all the work of social transition and has been told, that is, once we have done what we have, we will now give another form to this.

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This is mostly a matter of formalism or paper.

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Well, if you want.

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However, if you want, here are some villages that don't know, even with a plan drawn up.

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Then these villages will be the ones that will have to start up quickly.

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I don’t think it’s so important to delay a month or two when you have lines of work in progress and the results are already visible.

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I'm not saying it.

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The work was not done by me.

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Now I have a pretty bad argument.

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There are other countries that don't go that far to justify you.

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I didn’t justify it with that.

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I justify saying that I'm going to do the process.

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it started in 2023, I'm not done.

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The Law one bar two 0 two four clearly states that the plan for the month of February 2026 must be written.

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I didn’t say that you didn’t stop, that you didn’t work.

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But it's late, and there's no time to comply with that law.

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And the fact that the peoples of the other peoples or other peoples have not carried out the plan cannot simply be a delay in justifying an argument.

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I mean, I told you the arguments.

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we started a process of creation of 2.020 and took a long time to work with the citizens, the agents of the municipality and everyone.

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And that's elaborated.

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What is missing from this document is formalism and structure.

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Another structure.

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So I don't think we're doing any terrible additions-or anything.

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That’s why I told you that there are probably other countries that have too many problems.

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I don’t use that as an argument, but I think it’s that we have the work done, that we have passed it on paper.

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Still, there is one month left.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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You cannot say that the debate is not going to be fulfilled today, and it has not come

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i don't know any other opinion.

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Well, then we'll vote.

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For the ratification of the new Covenant of Mayors.

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Thirteen votes in favour, therefore.

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This includes the ratification of the New Covenant of Mayors to intensify action towards a fairer and more climate-neutral Europe.

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in point 8.

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Laundry. Laundry.

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The Oiartzun City Council has a partner to say Inon Bai.

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Well, the City Council of Oiartzun made a request for access to the Laundry and to the Laundry itself.

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December 10th.

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december 10, 2025, what?

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In the same month, on the 16th, the General Assembly of Laundries was held, with its members and the approval of the Oiartzuarras, and the requirements to be able to be part of it were determined.

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A contribution of €130,000 is required through the capital increase, and 62 new participations are generated as a result of the capital increase.

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In this capital increase, first of all, because it is true that all members are entitled to preferential acquisition rights, that is, the City Councils of Usurbil, Hernani and Astigarraga.

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That is what we bring to the plenary, that is, the renunciation of that right, so that Oiartzun can assume those participations.

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To do this, we gave the explanations of the committee.

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On the one hand there was the Laundry application form.

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On the other hand, there was the letter of the person responsible for financing the administration of the Treasury, in which he states that the income of the Oiartzun City Council is not to generate that extra cost to the rest of the municipalities.

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We also have the report of the Secretary of the City of Zulego and the Comptroller.

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So that is a little bit what we are bringing here, that is, the renunciation of the preferential right, that is, of the preferential right to access to participation

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and what the opinion says.

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Well, that would be the same.

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Previously, at the request of the City of Oiartzun, the City of Usurbil renounces the preferential right to acquire shares to acquire the status of partner in the public company Garbasuna ese eme.

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And the 2nd, to the public society Garbikaniari, of course, Gaztea.

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The decision we make.

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I don't know if you have questions.

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For what,

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Aiba

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Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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We voted in favour of the opinion in committee because we believe that it was a technical procedure and that we have not been informed that there was a lack of essential information in order to take a decision of great importance.

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Subsequently, and in view of the new relevant information, it has been found that there is no previous economic-economic-financial study, nor a clear assessment of the current and future budgetary effects that this decision can have for the municipalities.

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We are talking about an accredited decision, which commits public resources and links the City Council to a public society, without limits.

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In these conditions it is not acceptable to vote blindly.

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And we want to make it very clear.

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The Basque Nationalist Party, pe ene uve, there is no collaboration between the municipalities.

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Sense. Sense.

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What we defend is that any decision must be made with objective data, rigorous economic reports and guarantees of sustainability.

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And that's why today's vote.

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Oh sea, we're asking you to suspend today's vote until you have that information.

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And if not, we will vote against it.

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Not because we have changed political opinion, but because we refuse to guarantee a decision without having the minimum information that can be required.

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Well, I don’t remember that the committee was held a week ago, five more, six days ago all the documentation was uploaded.

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They had time to study it until the committee, after the committee passed until the plenary session.

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Another week and two or more days.

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And at no time have they come to ask for more information so that this decision can be annulled.

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So I am surprised that you are saying here today that the four reports you have had for fifteen 20 days are not enough.

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I think so.

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There's something else behind it.

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Because I told you, Chief Financial Officer.

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There's a more comprehensive report.

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If you needed it, ask for it and it would be given to you.

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In it you have the balance sheets, the profit and loss accounts, the amount of the participations, how it would look like the accounting pedification of the insurance, the amount in which each of the Participations would remain, I do not know what more you would need.

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And remember, I don't.

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What he's doing is refusing to buy those shares.

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They're not that many.

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Gorka doesn't hesitate at any time.

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It has issued a report under three laws.

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I have three laws.

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foral Standard 2003.

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That is, Control of Intervention.

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The Provincial Decree of the Provincial Council of Gipuzkoa is the Internal Control Regime, and on November 24, 2024, the agreement of the plenary sessions of the local entity, the regime of prior audit and limited intervention and the requirements to verify the files.

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Therefore, according to our Comptroller, he complies with all of them.

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The secretary's report is also extensive, there is.

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I don't know what else you need.

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I don't understand what else you need.

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And if you needed it and you had a doubt, I said, fifteen.

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there have been 20 days of questions.

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And I, as Ainhoa said, at least as far as I'm concerned, ask you to say this, at least for gold than to say it directly.

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Ask for it, why?

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And we're willing to assess it in a moment if there's any point that needs to be cancelled.

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But we understand that there are all the previous studies and reports that make this decision possible.

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There are, therefore, interveners who report the Secretariats to the Plenary of the City of Usurbil for the adoption of this agreement.

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And so we see no reason, let alone reason, to abandon this point.

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Well, as Mayor, do I understand that this decision will be non-mine, to suspend Leire or move forward?

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Well, we believe, as I say, that there is enough information, enough report to make this decision, so I am not going to suspend it.

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Or even, I repeat, Ainhoa has told you.

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We would like you to tell us in advance if you have such a request, and we are willing to analyze it, but not so, to say it directly in the plenary.

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And we reaffirm ourselves.

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This decision, moreover, does not change anything in the situation in which we find ourselves, nor does it renounce anything.

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It’s not another decision than that.

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Therefore, we do not believe that the decision to be taken in this matter changes anything.

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We shall therefore vote on the point.

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Yeah, but they say we're going to vote.

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I'm not canceling it.

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No, I'm not saying it.

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The City Council of Usurbil does not have the information to make that decision, and that is why I voted in favour.

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There is a lack of information at the source of this decision.

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The mayor of Oiartzun acknowledged yesterday that he did not have an economic report on this issue.

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Then we come almost badly from the source.

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How can we make a decision without all the information?

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This is the information we requested.

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But if the Oiartzun City Council does not have the applicant, will you tell me in the entrance ticket office how we should move forward?

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Then? Then?

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And I think we should be on time, leave the issue on the table, make all the reports that need to be made, analyze them and move forward.

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And it is more surprising that you are surprised by our change of vote.

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Our change of vote demands more from you than moving forward with the information that is missing, than moving forward without it.

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So that worries him a little.

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No, I didn't say your vote change required us

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the reports issued by the technicians are sufficient information for the adoption of this agreement by the Plenary of the City of Usurbil.

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That's what I said, and that's why I said it.

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So I don’t know what the mayor of Oiartzun said yesterday.

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I have to confess.

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I don't know.

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It's what I know.

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And I said two things.

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One, that the next day we would appreciate it, if nothing else, knowing that the plenary is at six o’clock in the afternoon, to bring this proposal, if you want it in the morning or if you want it two hours in advance.

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At least we have to check.

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And I'm telling you, I'm willing to analyze these kinds of requests and not do it directly.

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And where we understand that the Usurbil Corporation at this time has a solid base on which to make this decision, and that is why we understand that we are going to vote.

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I keep it.

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You are perfectly entitled to change your vote, O sea.

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What has surprised us is that, as Ainhoa said, there has not been this request in 20 days, etc., but simply

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we don't know this for 180 days.

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We know this since yesterday.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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I lack information.

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I have not known for 20 days, nor since the committee, because otherwise I would not have voted in favour.

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Yeah, I'm an alien.

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With the information it has in the Commission.

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We voted in favor.

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Now that we've been through the committee, yesterday we found out that there was a lot of information missing.

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And this cannot be carried out.

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Now

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What information will the City Council need inside it?

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What exactly is the missing information to tell us about our resignation?

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What is it?

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Yes, I told you, but I repeated the economic report.

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The mayor of Oiartzun acknowledged yesterday that he did not have any economic report.

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What effect would this have on the city?

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And that’s from the beginning.

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If we go into this process now, we are missing the misinformation.

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I just want to differentiate two things.

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The decision to be taken by the City of Oiartzun is not the decision to be taken by the City of Usurbil.

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No, no, two things, two different decisions.

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I understand the City Council of Oiartzun.

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Yesterday the City Council of Usurbil has to decide today to renounce some actions.

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Yesterday, the City Council decided something else.

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That’s why I said that’s the decision we make.

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He doesn't decide anything else.

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Consequently, this agreement will be adopted in advance by the City of Usurbil and not by the City of Oiartzun.

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All the information that the City of Usurbil needs.

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I do not know exactly what the Oiartzun City Council decided yesterday in relation to the laundry and, therefore, how I do not know what the Oiartzun City Council has decided.

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As far as I know, he hasn't decided to give up his actions in Usurbil.

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Is that what the Usurbil Corporation decides?

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So I understand that these are two different decisions, and each decision will need its own studies, its own reports.

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Do you understand?

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So you can't bring that transfer here to make this decision.

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No, no, no, we take that because the City Council decides something else.

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We're deciding to give up some of our actions.

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The decisions are very different

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so they're not two things.

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Oh, that's it.

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It has to be differentiated

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City Council in participations for the incorporation into a society of another partner or another partner in which there is no study, I do not know if there is any economic study.

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And you, we have to deny that there is no study of another partner to enter that action.

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That’s a policy of accountability, I think.

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No, we don't think so.

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But you're a partner

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Thank you very much.

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It must be incorporated into a society.

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Directly or indirectly.

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It is a decision that has an implication, even if the conclusions of that decision are not explained to me now in the reports.

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To make a contribution that must be denied at any time.

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At no time is this contribution in question in the processes that he will have to carry out within himself.

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We will not enter, just as they will not enter into us.

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It is a project that makes their contribution, adds another municipality, integrates another municipality into a public society, even more viable, without a doubt.

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And in the General Assembly of Lavandía we valued this as such

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and they have been given economic viability.

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That’s why we’ve given way to this decision.

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Listen,

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We would have had to ask the representative of the Oiartzun Udaleku, but we are clear that this does not harm the project and even strengthens it.

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That they are going to make a contribution of 130,000 €, and he only asked us if we would like to buy those participations, and we say no.

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That’s a discussion here today.

401
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Come on. Come on.

402
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I haven't kept arguing, but no, no

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thank you very much.

404
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Well, I think we said them.

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I don't know if there are any more ideas.

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Otherwise I said what my opinion was.

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Peter

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Sorry, to understand.

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E. Costing.

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It's hard for me to understand everything.

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It is true that in committee we would vote in favour of everything

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Claro. Claro.

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Thank you, Madam President.

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Basque socialists.

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Mrs. Rojo.

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The word is yours.

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Thank you, Madam President.

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Ordizia.

419
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Yes, Doi Arzun.

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But you don’t have an economic form if you can get it, a small summary in Spanish.

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Hori ere ez da hitza

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oiartzun alcalde bat da.

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Ez dut hori ez, financial economic report.

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You're missing information.

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Hori da Oiartzun hori da.

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Thank you, Madam President.

427
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Thank you, Madam President.

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Subject to a partner who’s going to support this study.

429
00:46:16.370 --> 00:46:25.710
Ba, Usurbil’s welfare is a joint partner with another welfare.

430
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:28.880
You don't explain yourself well.

431
00:46:30.650 --> 00:46:31.100
Listen. Listen.

432
00:46:31.120 --> 00:46:32.090
The city asked for it.

433
00:46:32.470 --> 00:46:45.450
On December 10, he submitted a letter requesting the entry of the application in Laundry to Laundry, which was approved by the Assembly of Laundry.

434
00:46:48.570 --> 00:46:51.750
We don't give anything today.

435
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:53.780
Deiadar

436
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:56.120
laundry says yes.

437
00:46:56.140 --> 00:46:57.040
He called it chicken.

438
00:46:57.200 --> 00:46:58.420
The chicken is donated.

439
00:46:59.100 --> 00:47:02.430
What we're doing today is just saying those jalpiquips.

440
00:47:03.050 --> 00:47:05.530
Either we want to exercise that right or we don’t want to.

441
00:47:06.410 --> 00:47:07.100
Thank you very much.

442
00:47:07.990 --> 00:47:15.480
He told him that there was a time when it had to be decided whether or not the Oiartzun request was accepted.

443
00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:23.400
And what he's saying is that he made that request to Lavanía, and Lavanía has already accepted that request.

444
00:47:23.420 --> 00:47:24.540
Why this decision?

445
00:47:24.640 --> 00:47:28.030
Because it belongs to the General Assembly of Lavandía?

446
00:47:28.130 --> 00:47:29.550
And that decision is made.

447
00:47:30.640 --> 00:47:46.190
That for the adoption of this agreement, Lavanía may also issue its economic reports, its legal reports, in which it will indicate all the analysis that must be carried out in order to be able to incorporate a new member into the aforementioned company.

448
00:47:46.350 --> 00:47:47.490
Or yes or no.

449
00:47:49.240 --> 00:47:53.840
What we are voting for is a consequence of this decision.

450
00:47:53.860 --> 00:47:55.200
That's why I said it today.

451
00:47:55.240 --> 00:48:00.840
Yesterday the City Council of Jartzun, I don't know what work you have and what you decided.

452
00:48:01.240 --> 00:48:02.200
What was the point.

453
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:08.280
I don't know, Xabi, I don't know, so if it was, I'm not who to tell you that it's not because they don't know it.

454
00:48:08.340 --> 00:48:10.580
So I don't question your words.

455
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:28.920
And that what we are going to decide today is two different things, and that what we decide only today is the prioritization of some actions, not the resignation of Ainhoa for the benefit of another.

456
00:48:29.160 --> 00:48:29.450
Punto. Punto.

457
00:48:29.550 --> 00:48:29.860
That's it.

458
00:48:29.930 --> 00:48:31.730
We don't vote that much more

459
00:48:35.410 --> 00:48:36.390
voting something else.

460
00:48:36.430 --> 00:48:47.320
But if we don’t give up that action and the other municipalities don’t give up those actions, the echo doesn’t come in, even if I haven’t been in the laundry.

461
00:48:48.220 --> 00:48:51.400
But, well, in any case, what we do is more.

462
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:52.240
Oiartzun

463
00:48:55.470 --> 00:48:57.820
to answer, Mr. Toña, the word is yours.

464
00:49:04.750 --> 00:49:06.190
Case of mine.

465
00:49:06.560 --> 00:49:07.480
Work in Oiartzun.

466
00:49:08.750 --> 00:49:12.580
Attention, the problem was economic, which I'm going to hang acid on.

467
00:49:13.390 --> 00:49:17.670
I am here, we are part of the sugar.

468
00:49:19.250 --> 00:49:21.290
Mr. Maneiro, the word is yours.

469
00:49:29.610 --> 00:49:35.340
Ez dezimos ez decimos, ez decimos ee apartarlo ni botarren.

470
00:49:35.620 --> 00:49:40.280
Esaten dugu, Hasta ez dugu informazioa bat.

471
00:49:40.380 --> 00:49:42.080
Ba bamoak 0.

472
00:49:48.310 --> 00:49:49.270
Thank you, again.

473
00:49:53.280 --> 00:50:00.590
I will not end by saying anything new, but yes, you want to separate the two issues.

474
00:50:00.690 --> 00:50:06.550
Yes, what you want to decide here today in Usurbil and what the Oiartzun City Council decided yesterday.

475
00:50:06.890 --> 00:50:12.430
But it is already linked to what we decide here today.

476
00:50:12.590 --> 00:50:17.000
If you do not move forward, you will enter through the municipality of Oiartzun.

477
00:50:17.020 --> 00:50:19.960
And it's true that it's important to know

478
00:50:21.470 --> 00:50:27.150
conditions under which the persons to whom we are addressed will be incorporated.

479
00:50:27.290 --> 00:50:32.660
I would like to ask you a question again, because you do not know what the Oiartzun City Council should have decided yesterday.

480
00:50:33.990 --> 00:50:36.650
I ask because they don't know.

481
00:50:36.730 --> 00:50:41.610
What I know is what I have to decide today, it seems that it has nothing to do with it.

482
00:50:41.650 --> 00:50:43.250
I ask because they don't know that.

483
00:50:43.330 --> 00:50:46.090
What had to be decided by Lavan.

484
00:50:46.180 --> 00:50:51.960
With regard to A, we say that the Mayor himself said that he did not have an economic-financial report.

485
00:50:52.060 --> 00:50:56.680
But in what context, in what subject matter, what decision to make?

486
00:50:56.700 --> 00:50:58.040
It's very different, of course.

487
00:50:58.300 --> 00:51:01.210
What decision to make?

488
00:51:01.270 --> 00:51:02.450
I'm asking Xabi.

489
00:51:02.870 --> 00:51:08.590
I ask because they don’t know, because I want to contextualize where that phrase of a moment of the mayor comes from.

490
00:51:10.030 --> 00:51:18.320
In the motion presented by our group, he spoke about the issues and admitted that he did not have any economic-financial report

491
00:51:18.550 --> 00:51:20.180
for my clarification.

492
00:51:20.740 --> 00:51:33.800
Your group is presenting a motion because I want to contextualize it a little and understand what the decision really is, that is, a very concrete decision and where that phrase came from and why it comes from.

493
00:51:33.860 --> 00:51:35.180
I want to contextualize.

494
00:51:35.240 --> 00:51:38.800
What does your party introduce a motion to demand?

495
00:51:38.940 --> 00:51:40.240
what is the purpose of this motion?

496
00:51:43.070 --> 00:51:54.210
they did not have economic and financial information on the subject, on the subject of access to cleanliness, and requested that it be suspended until they had all the reports.

497
00:51:55.560 --> 00:51:58.940
And that was when he said that the mayor didn't have the report

498
00:51:59.090 --> 00:52:00.710
and down there.

499
00:52:01.030 --> 00:52:12.270
Where, as Ainhoa says, the representative of this City Council in Laundries is Ainhoa, where that decision has been taken, when that decision has been taken to include the City of Hartoum in Laundries.

500
00:52:12.330 --> 00:52:18.800
That’s why I want you to understand what is being asked for, Xabi, when I say it simply because the decision has already been made.

501
00:52:19.590 --> 00:52:20.470
Well, I don't know.

502
00:52:20.940 --> 00:52:27.520
And if you don't want to, understand, no, I want to contextualize that phrase.

503
00:52:27.580 --> 00:52:32.340
And how I haven't been in that plenary, how I haven't been in that plenary, because they don't know.

504
00:52:32.680 --> 00:52:33.320
What is it about?

505
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:35.200
Should the next decision be made?

506
00:52:35.240 --> 00:52:43.590
and why do I want to know why the mayor of Oiartzun says that at some point, I want to contextualize, because they don’t know.

507
00:52:44.070 --> 00:52:44.450
And it is.

508
00:52:44.510 --> 00:52:52.520
I am asking the question because our group asked for reports and you are not saying that this was a motion.

509
00:52:53.140 --> 00:52:55.570
You said it now in your first speech.

510
00:52:55.630 --> 00:52:58.900
You did not say that it comes in relation to a motion, etc.

511
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.910
Excuse me, you're saying to drop a point.

512
00:53:02.970 --> 00:53:14.450
I have to know, I mean, for a phrase that the mayor of Oiartzun says at one time, without knowing what he said and in relation to the lists.

513
00:53:14.490 --> 00:53:22.020
And something where this procedure and this process is progressing and this is another decision that needs to be made in that process.

514
00:53:22.330 --> 00:53:30.560
Well, I also need more information to make a decision like this, and just tell me, as you would understand from the Meaning that comes with your request.

515
00:53:30.640 --> 00:53:35.040
Mayor Oiartzun has said this, but I know in what context and where.

516
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:38.460
And that’s why I said that there are two different decisions that were going to be made.

517
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:40.240
That's why I say, then it is.

518
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:45.870
Yesterday’s issue was a motion that you tabled, whether or not you entered Laundries.

519
00:53:46.130 --> 00:53:48.870
Because a motion was also a decision that had to be made.

520
00:53:48.890 --> 00:53:52.810
It was not in front of the entrance to Purification.

521
00:53:54.290 --> 00:53:55.610
I didn't say it.

522
00:53:55.630 --> 00:54:02.500
You brought the matter here today, so we're saying that it was yesterday for me to make a decision.

523
00:54:02.520 --> 00:54:03.600
I told you.

524
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.740
Make a decision earlier.

525
00:54:07.720 --> 00:54:08.590
About the motion.

526
00:54:08.620 --> 00:54:15.750
They will see what decision they made, but it turns out that the same mayor approved that he did not have that economic-financial report.

527
00:54:16.860 --> 00:54:17.080
Punto,

528
00:54:20.150 --> 00:54:25.950
We asked for all the reports until we had them.

529
00:54:25.990 --> 00:54:27.770
Watch out, yeah

530
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:32.720
here I think it doesn’t stretch anymore.

531
00:54:32.740 --> 00:54:37.670
But when you look at things in plenary, it's not on the agenda.

532
00:54:37.730 --> 00:54:39.130
What do you look at?

533
00:54:39.710 --> 00:54:41.930
an urgent motion has been introduced.

534
00:54:42.070 --> 00:54:49.880
The inclusion of zero waste reports is requested, not from the municipalities of Oiartzun, but from zero waste.

535
00:54:53.120 --> 00:55:04.440
We must not forget what waste has been used for for many years to stretch it, and I believe that this goes the same way and the same direction.

536
00:55:04.980 --> 00:55:16.520
The decision that is made here is very simple, to resign, now as in other municipalities, and also in Oiartzun in relation to a motion introduced at the last minute.

537
00:55:17.040 --> 00:55:27.800
And if you're trying to confuse things, you do your own calculations, but having said the decision that's made here, it's simple and clear.

538
00:55:30.970 --> 00:55:37.570
If you don't want to move forward, if you want to move forward with that lack of information, move forward, but we won't be today.

539
00:55:38.600 --> 00:55:41.080
When I came in, the shares were worth $1,000.

540
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:43.940
Do you know now how much each action is worth?

541
00:55:44.260 --> 00:55:46.810
double and double pass.

542
00:55:46.830 --> 00:55:47.470
And past.

543
00:55:48.070 --> 00:55:51.230
And we don't have the money to earn those values.

544
00:55:51.590 --> 00:55:56.030
We are in other things to have effective selective collections.

545
00:55:56.050 --> 00:56:04.040
And we also have 85% of selective collection, because we have that collection system.

546
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:05.850
E, Then, well,

547
00:56:06.170 --> 00:56:10.710
i think you’re playing another game.

548
00:56:17.060 --> 00:56:18.570
They weren't exactly those.

549
00:56:19.100 --> 00:56:27.910
And also, whether or not this decision should be suspended at some point in this process, he says that there is enough information and to move forward.

550
00:56:30.150 --> 00:56:30.570
Watsap

551
00:56:30.590 --> 00:56:31.990
Because I didn't want to know.

552
00:56:32.590 --> 00:56:34.780
Yesterday, I'm in watsap with him right now.

553
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:39.020
And, of course, to move forward, because here there is also manipulation.

554
00:56:39.660 --> 00:56:42.510
I also wanted to be sure.

555
00:56:42.530 --> 00:56:57.690
I told you that if you had brought this point before, before the plenary, then we would have done all the contrasts equally, Xabi, and I would appreciate it if you could do it on another occasion, if possible, in advance, if not.

556
00:56:57.770 --> 00:57:01.090
At this point, decisions have to be made.

557
00:57:01.470 --> 00:57:06.280
To make decisions I need contestants, I need reasons, I need origins.

558
00:57:06.770 --> 00:57:09.280
And what I said at the moment.

559
00:57:09.340 --> 00:57:17.840
I'm with Joana directly, so she told me to move on.

560
00:57:18.390 --> 00:57:24.520
And even when he said that, and in particular Ainhoa, what he told me, I reaffirm myself in the decision that was introduced.

561
00:57:24.860 --> 00:57:29.540
So we’re going to vote.

562
00:57:30.160 --> 00:57:31.670
There's a vote of nothing else.

563
00:57:31.870 --> 00:57:34.130
We will vote in favour.

564
00:57:37.080 --> 00:57:37.880
Ten points for each one

565
00:57:38.310 --> 00:57:39.360
against the contracts.

566
00:57:40.500 --> 00:57:41.530
Three votes against.

567
00:57:41.850 --> 00:57:52.940
Therefore, the waiver by the City of Usurbil of the preferential right to acquire shares in relation to the request of the City of Oiartzun to acquire the status of partner in the public society Garbikaria is accepted

568
00:58:01.180 --> 00:58:02.830
Well, goodbye, goodbye

569
00:58:03.930 --> 00:58:04.650
They've got it.

570
00:58:04.670 --> 00:58:04.930
Nerba. Nerba.

571
00:58:05.650 --> 00:58:07.510
Well, let's move on to the next point.

572
00:58:07.570 --> 00:58:15.150
in point 9.- Initially approve the Integral Plan of Universal Accessibility of Usurbil.

573
00:58:16.670 --> 00:58:31.730
Well, for me today and now I would like to highlight the importance of the plan that we are going to approve, because in Sorbille, in Usurbil we have been for years to have Usurbil our people, a caring town.

574
00:58:32.310 --> 00:58:32.490
What? What?

575
00:58:35.570 --> 00:58:36.810
oh, sorry, Start

576
00:58:44.190 --> 00:58:47.890
you know that this point comes without a ruling.

577
00:58:48.310 --> 00:58:52.000
We started on the board.

578
00:58:52.060 --> 00:58:58.330
He did not give us time to analyze the contributions of the Basque Nationalist Party to the document.

579
00:58:58.510 --> 00:59:04.160
We agreed to have another working session, a meeting, in addition to the committee.

580
00:59:04.260 --> 00:59:05.740
We had a meeting.

581
00:59:06.180 --> 00:59:19.220
It was there that we worked on the contributions and consensus that had been made and with what that meeting had given us we committed ourselves to renewing the document.

582
00:59:19.620 --> 00:59:21.660
A record was sent to you in advance.

583
00:59:21.700 --> 00:59:28.290
The minutes of that meeting, if we agreed, if those were the ones adopted and those agreed.

584
00:59:29.210 --> 00:59:29.950
I understand that.

585
00:59:30.170 --> 00:59:30.950
I answered it.

586
00:59:31.170 --> 00:59:36.240
I don't know who the others have talked to or not, but I understand that it was affirmative.

587
00:59:36.260 --> 00:59:38.620
And, therefore, on the basis of that Act, it is what has been done.

588
00:59:38.950 --> 00:59:43.850
It is a document that is renewed and brought today.

589
00:59:44.300 --> 00:59:52.920
These agreements are also built on the contacts that have been maintained in recent weeks or days between the three political parties.

590
00:59:53.290 --> 01:00:00.670
Therefore, in the document that has been distributed today, they are reflected and, therefore, it comes without dictating.

591
01:00:00.750 --> 01:00:14.080
And so what we have to do is vote in advance, if we are going to put it in order, and then we are going to work on it, to work on it.

592
01:00:14.930 --> 01:00:19.640
Therefore, what has been said, we will first vote on it, whether or not it is included in the agenda.

593
01:00:22.620 --> 01:00:24.520
2.026.

594
01:00:24.550 --> 01:00:25.350
29.

595
01:00:25.470 --> 01:00:32.220
The initial approval of the Comprehensive Universal Accessibility Plan is approved for inclusion in the agenda.

596
01:00:33.690 --> 01:00:40.640
That being said, at least as I was saying, I'm going to make a few words for the presentation of the plan.

597
01:00:40.900 --> 01:00:54.170
I know that we have been working on this for a long time in recent days, but, as I said before, I think that a city council rarely approves plans of this kind.

598
01:00:54.670 --> 01:00:59.480
And because of the dimension of this plan, well, at least it requires that it be done as I say.

599
01:00:59.500 --> 01:01:17.430
Two or three brushstrokes of the presentation plan and as I said, we also place this important step within the work we are doing in the direction of making Usurbil a more caring town.

600
01:01:17.850 --> 01:01:24.920
The caring people ask us to address the challenge of care and care from all its dimensions.

601
01:01:25.550 --> 01:01:38.340
And when we talk about all dimensions, it also requires us to make the concept of accessibility, like that of gender, transversal in our municipal action and in our municipal policies.

602
01:01:38.930 --> 01:01:45.720
And completing this plan is also an important step in that direction.

603
01:01:46.140 --> 01:01:55.730
Well, if Usurbil is going to be a city for everyone and for everyone, there are important changes in this plan.

604
01:01:55.830 --> 01:02:10.280
The title of the Plan itself refers to the Universal Accessibility Plan, and this comes from the fact that the Universal Accessibility Strategy of the Basque Country brought with it this new approach and elaboration.

605
01:02:10.700 --> 01:02:16.440
This strategy requires all the institutions of the Autonomous Community of the Basque Country, including, of course, the municipalities.

606
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:28.810
Take measures beyond the accessibility of the physical environment and pay attention to accessibility in an integral and integral way.

607
01:02:28.830 --> 01:02:40.440
And that’s why, well, it’s true, the Usurbil City Council has had accessibility plans before, but so far we’ve been talking about the built area.

608
01:02:40.600 --> 01:02:56.300
We have had an impact, but in this case, as I say, what this plan and this change brings us is a universal understanding of accessibility and also of connective accessibility.

609
01:02:56.610 --> 01:03:07.190
Therefore, in addition to the accessible municipality, we also include the term and scope of action of the accessible municipality.

610
01:03:07.970 --> 01:03:14.580
I have to say that in this process the City Council has had the project, the company.

611
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:18.740
I really have to thank you for the work you have done.

612
01:03:18.940 --> 01:03:35.620
I think the last document we have in our hands, because the plan itself is made up of five different documents, and I mean that the work they have done has been really commendable.

613
01:03:35.640 --> 01:03:37.110
It consists of five documents.

614
01:03:37.160 --> 01:03:38.330
There's a memory of one.

615
01:03:38.950 --> 01:03:46.380
The report sets out the reasons why this plan is justified or makes it necessary.

616
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:57.650
On the other hand, there is the Accessible Municipality Action Plan, the Accessible Municipality Action Plan, the Rules, Criteria and Recommendations and the Participation Report.

617
01:03:57.830 --> 01:03:58.450
Well, a little bit.

618
01:03:58.490 --> 01:04:01.500
This plan is also a plan that we have been working on for the last few months.

619
01:04:01.980 --> 01:04:07.810
Two areas that have been complementing each other in two different areas.

620
01:04:07.830 --> 01:04:33.560
On the one hand, because there has been a working group of municipal technicians within the City Council for the drafting of the follow-up to this Plan, and on the other hand, there have been several citizen participation sessions, which are the ones that have been collected in the memory, No and then I think some very interesting annexes.

621
01:04:33.680 --> 01:04:35.140
And then, well, I mentioned it earlier.

622
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:46.790
We have also tried to give way in recent days to the contributions that have been made from the opposition by the political parties.

623
01:04:47.260 --> 01:04:53.280
Today, therefore, I believe that we should come with the greatest possible consensus, because this is what this issue requires.

624
01:04:54.390 --> 01:05:19.420
The validity of this plan is a four-year plan, if 2.026 is one of the founding pillars of the Universal Plan for 29, it is said that it must include concrete and feasible measures, so it should not be a mere list of everything that remains to be done.

625
01:05:19.680 --> 01:05:20.080
The plan.

626
01:05:20.380 --> 01:05:24.840
Well, probably, as there have been many plans that have been written so far.

627
01:05:25.220 --> 01:05:33.460
And in that sense, based on that criterion, we have really tried to write a realistic plan, an achievable plan.

628
01:05:33.520 --> 01:05:43.890
Somehow accustomed to the resources that this City Council has, both economic and personal.

629
01:05:44.660 --> 01:05:54.050
There are all kinds of actions, interventions, as it is called measures, and of very different dimensions.

630
01:05:54.270 --> 01:06:00.190
There are some, somewhat lighter or more tender, that do not require so much investment.

631
01:06:00.630 --> 01:06:21.720
Others, on the other hand, are talking about strong investments, and that is why we valued that, although the plan has a validity of four years, from 30 it is also contemplated what should be done and, if possible, start giving way to them.

632
01:06:22.990 --> 01:06:34.160
In this sense, we have two areas of action, the accessible municipality, an area of action that wants to influence above all the physical environment.

633
01:06:34.610 --> 01:06:39.720
And this action plan is also structured around four axes.

634
01:06:39.980 --> 01:06:49.300
On the one hand, the urban environment, transport, public buildings, spaces and private activities.

635
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:57.960
Four axes and axes, a total of 29 measures are included, which I would like to mention.

636
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:02.260
Twenty09:00 I'm not going to start listing, but some of them.

637
01:07:02.700 --> 01:07:11.930
And the investment that we are going to make in Santuenea, I also want to point out that this urbanization project is coming together with the neighbors.

638
01:07:12.500 --> 01:07:19.310
It is an intervention that is included in the Neighborhood Plan derived from the participatory process carried out two years ago.

639
01:07:19.790 --> 01:07:27.540
And, you know, an intervention that is already included in the budgets of 2026 and that requires a lot of investment.

640
01:07:28.240 --> 01:07:29.600
And we'll start with that.

641
01:07:30.120 --> 01:07:32.620
We also continue to intervene on the farm.

642
01:07:32.640 --> 01:07:36.660
The Etxaldi neighborhood also has its own accessibility plan.

643
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:42.160
Two phases of this accessibility plan are already being finalized.

644
01:07:42.390 --> 01:07:51.970
Yes, improving the accessibility conditions of San Esteban Street, where the important thing has been to eliminate the cars if we are going to improve the accessibility conditions.

645
01:07:52.340 --> 01:07:54.420
And the works of Phase 2 are coming to an end

646
01:07:57.550 --> 01:08:05.530
and the work of the elevator that links the Ba farmhouse with the main street is also about to end.

647
01:08:06.510 --> 01:08:34.530
And, therefore, in that phase, in that other plan there would be two more phases, and in this first four years, in the children's playground that was previously in the lower area, another important intervention will be to make this area of the City Hall more accessible, which we also want to address.

648
01:08:34.910 --> 01:08:42.660
And also adapt the accesses to the outpatient health center.

649
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:55.840
And apart from that, there are other investments, but there are also other activities that require us to carry out activities every year to improve them.

650
01:08:55.910 --> 01:08:58.280
On the one hand, there are steep routes.

651
01:08:58.400 --> 01:09:05.200
In Usurbil we have many slopes, due to the location of the town where the sea is located there are many slopes.

652
01:09:05.660 --> 01:09:11.370
It is therefore difficult to eliminate the slopes, but it is possible to improve the accessibility conditions of the slopes.

653
01:09:11.430 --> 01:09:33.300
And there, in our opinion, they are identified and the Plan includes three priority areas in the Alper Hoburu Atxegaldea area, in the streets of San Ignacio and Bolmonte, and therefore there we foresee other actions that require permanent action.

654
01:09:33.320 --> 01:09:46.460
There will also be a study of the conditions of the stairs and ramps, and a third, the conditioning of zebra crossings, for which budgets are included annually.

655
01:09:47.510 --> 01:09:55.540
And in the accessible City Hall, that is, here also comes the main novelty, as they say, with the batteries.

656
01:09:55.700 --> 01:10:01.550
Porque is true, because so far this vision has not been so internalized in the administration.

657
01:10:01.610 --> 01:10:05.570
And in that sense, I believe that self-criticism must be made.

658
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:20.450
And this plan also comes to put it in the forefront, with what it entails, for public employees and political leaders who manage the public administration.

659
01:10:20.980 --> 01:10:26.960
And that is why, also in this case, this plan is structured in six axes.

660
01:10:27.500 --> 01:10:36.350
On the one hand, the most important axis is training and awareness, for which many measures are included in the Plan.

661
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:50.170
It also focuses on the information, communication and governance model to be channeled by the City Council and, therefore, what changes should be made in the path of universal accessibility.

662
01:10:50.590 --> 01:10:53.930
It also carries out municipal procedures

663
01:10:56.350 --> 01:11:00.900
he looks at it, and there you have to look at the procedures.

664
01:11:01.300 --> 01:11:05.860
Another area is leisure, well-being and development, the norm and 6th.

665
01:11:06.540 --> 01:11:12.500
Management and communication of Eibar and Iupia.

666
01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:18.810
This section includes more than eighteen actions.

667
01:11:18.870 --> 01:11:23.940
There's a lot more, but, well, I'd leave the presentation of the plan here.

668
01:11:31.010 --> 01:11:50.230
Yes, from the Basque Nationalist Party we want to make it clear from the beginning that we are going to vote in favour of the accessibility plan, because the councillor, ladies and gentlemen, we fully agree, because some of our proposals have been collected that improve the plan and because accessibility cannot wait any longer.

669
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:51.040
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

670
01:11:51.360 --> 01:11:58.560
Having said that, we must also point out that we do not agree with the way in which this dossier is being processed.

671
01:11:59.850 --> 01:12:12.310
This plan has been brought to the plenary session without prior consultation and we are going to approve it directly today on the basis of a need linked to a grant.

672
01:12:13.140 --> 01:12:20.880
We have received the updated documentation at noon today and it has not given us time to study it in depth.

673
01:12:21.040 --> 01:12:27.580
Yes, check this above to see if what has been agreed is collected and other points.

674
01:12:28.100 --> 01:12:32.040
But it doesn't give us time to study it in depth.

675
01:12:32.780 --> 01:12:36.830
And with this issue, things have to be said clearly.

676
01:12:37.530 --> 01:12:43.180
The subsidy to which reference is made is from 2023, or now in 2026.

677
01:12:43.240 --> 01:12:45.400
Gas, not gas.

678
01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:47.890
In the face of an unexpected emergency.

679
01:12:48.560 --> 01:13:01.170
This dossier, which for any reason has not been processed correctly, has now been tried to expedite it at the end of the process.

680
01:13:03.210 --> 01:13:06.600
Yes, it has come to this plenary today.

681
01:13:07.500 --> 01:13:16.290
For reasons of responsibility, consistency and because we believe in the content of the plan, we will not delay or block its approval.

682
01:13:17.340 --> 01:13:33.730
But we also want to make it clear from institutional responsibility that they are not the right way to process the issues, and we ask the government team to respect in the future the times, the organs and the ordinary procedures of the City Council.

683
01:13:34.580 --> 01:13:43.570
As I said, we will vote in favour of the plan, but we do not support the forms that have been brought to this plenary today

684
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:45.960
Alone. Alone.

685
01:13:46.080 --> 01:13:47.500
For the addition of Xabi.

686
01:13:47.520 --> 01:14:01.370
And the other day I told him that this Plan could also have been approved by decree of mayor, it could have been, and we have brought it to the plenary, because we wanted to give another dimension and another dimension to this plan.

687
01:14:01.430 --> 01:14:09.300
Therefore, the procedures have been maintained, and issues can be brought to the plenary as a matter of urgency, and we have done so.

688
01:14:09.420 --> 01:14:11.850
What can be done, what can be done.

689
01:14:12.250 --> 01:14:18.490
We also started working on this plan a long time ago, and I mean, and also a good week.

690
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:19.060
Until now

691
01:14:22.350 --> 01:14:28.850
the fact that it can be done by decree does not justify the forms used.

692
01:14:28.950 --> 01:14:42.170
If the Mayor’s Office could be held by decree and they have agreed to bring it to the Plenary, the minimum is to respect the ordinary procedure of the Plenary, including the Preliminary Commission.

693
01:14:42.980 --> 01:14:45.200
Nobody said it was done in two days.

694
01:14:45.910 --> 01:14:53.460
What we are saying is that this work has not been carried out through the corresponding bodies, nor in the appropriate time.

695
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:53.850
Best of all.

696
01:14:55.070 --> 01:14:57.380
Another one, Nik, Petri.

697
01:14:59.460 --> 01:15:01.290
Well, our vote

698
01:15:03.380 --> 01:15:08.740
yeah, he'll be on the side.

699
01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:15.360
We believe that a Municipal Accessibility Plan is necessary and must be complied with.

700
01:15:16.860 --> 01:15:20.370
I don’t have any thanks as an audience.

701
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:23.990
A plan is for four years.

702
01:15:25.010 --> 01:15:25.610
We're clear on that

703
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:28.860
i don't know.

704
01:15:29.110 --> 01:15:30.030
We have it.

705
01:15:30.340 --> 01:15:36.100
In four years the situation can be explained differently

706
01:15:36.120 --> 01:15:38.880
Well, it's clear.

707
01:15:38.910 --> 01:15:48.910
At that point in time this plan so far the project can change the budgets, I can change them.

708
01:15:48.970 --> 01:15:50.560
This one, yes.

709
01:15:50.780 --> 01:15:52.570
Our vote in favor, say in favor.

710
01:15:53.990 --> 01:15:55.690
Well, I totally agree.

711
01:15:55.710 --> 01:16:00.010
The approval of a plan does not mean that a plan cannot be reviewed in four years.

712
01:16:00.030 --> 01:16:02.670
I mean, because it can happen in between.

713
01:16:02.790 --> 01:16:05.070
Well, as I said, subsidies have been obtained.

714
01:16:05.530 --> 01:16:08.850
It allows us to change from one year to another.

715
01:16:08.990 --> 01:16:09.810
No doubt about it.

716
01:16:09.850 --> 01:16:19.780
Finally, for us, this plan is a roadmap that explains where the City Council should go in the next four years.

717
01:16:20.860 --> 01:16:24.180
And therefore, without a doubt, it is not a closed document.

718
01:16:24.240 --> 01:16:26.870
To accept it today does not mean that it is something watertight.

719
01:16:26.890 --> 01:16:29.930
A plan, because if it has to be something, it has to be life.

720
01:16:30.390 --> 01:16:39.840
And we understand that this plan will also be alive, that it should be, and that if new conditions arise, then there are more things to do.

721
01:16:40.040 --> 01:16:45.610
We have no doubt that this will be the case and that it will be brought and studied in due course

722
01:16:46.430 --> 01:16:47.340
pending study.

723
01:16:51.750 --> 01:16:55.070
Well, if there's nothing else to vote for, we'll pass.

724
01:16:56.100 --> 01:16:57.680
just say it.

725
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:01.450
Today we give it its initial approval, it is exposed to the public.

726
01:17:01.990 --> 01:17:11.370
Of course, there will be the possibility of making allegations, and if there are allegations, they should be studied and brought back.

727
01:17:11.570 --> 01:17:12.840
Well, that's right.

728
01:17:13.470 --> 01:17:20.800
In favor of the initial approval of any Integral Plan.

729
01:17:22.390 --> 01:17:23.340
Thirteen votes.

730
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:31.400
Therefore, the initial approval of the Integral Plan of Universal Accessibility of Usurbil 2.026 29 is unanimously approved.

731
01:17:33.940 --> 01:17:43.830
in point 10, the motion on the regularization of motorhome parking in Usurbil is presented by the Basque Nationalist Party.

732
01:17:43.870 --> 01:17:46.320
I therefore call on you to present the motion.

733
01:17:51.470 --> 01:17:59.060
In recent years, the use of motorhomes and housing vehicles as a model of mobility and itinerant tourism has increased significantly.

734
01:17:59.830 --> 01:18:14.470
This phenomenon, which also occurs in other municipalities in the Usurbil area and in Gipuzkoa, poses a challenge of coexistence linked to the use of public space and good environmental management, which requires a regulated response at the municipal level.

735
01:18:15.550 --> 01:18:21.780
Today, the problem is being particularly visible around octopuses, but they have suffered it before.

736
01:18:22.320 --> 01:18:26.600
Erreka Txiki, in the car parks of Aristitxo or in the area of Vain Buru, next to the ikastolas.

737
01:18:27.890 --> 01:18:31.190
The parking of urban vehicles is the responsibility of the City Council.

738
01:18:31.510 --> 01:18:41.190
Recently, in January 2025, the Municipal Ordinance regulating the use of public roads of an urban nature and their traffic, circulation and safety was approved.

739
01:18:42.080 --> 01:18:56.740
But in the absence of clear regulation, repetitive conflicts arise, parking lots that last for a long time, inadequate occupations of public space, problems of waste or discharges and difficulties for the functioning of the Municipal Guard.

740
01:18:57.280 --> 01:19:01.880
All this points to the need for a proactive organisation based on clear rules.

741
01:19:02.610 --> 01:19:23.400
Several municipalities in Gipuzkoa have made progress in this regard, through the approval of specific ordinances, the provision of regulated spaces and the establishment of time limits, the rotation of coexistence between neighbors, betting on a model that prioritizes legal security, both for residents and for motorhomes and uses.

742
01:19:25.550 --> 01:19:40.170
In view of all this, it is considered necessary that the City of Usurbil address this reality from the perspective of coexistence, regulating the parking of motorhomes in an objective way, ensuring compliance with the regulations and offering, where possible, its orderly solutions to avoid conflicts.

743
01:19:40.890 --> 01:19:42.980
Therefore, this white decision.

744
01:19:43.040 --> 01:20:00.530
The City Council expresses its willingness to respond to the phenomenon of motorhome parking, providing coexistence from a realistic and legally solid perspective, making compatible the right to use public space and the protection of the urban environment and the quality of life of citizens.

745
01:20:01.200 --> 01:20:12.870
The City Council of Usurbil undertakes to draft a specific municipal ordinance or to adapt the current ordinance regulating the parking of motorhomes in the municipality, including at least the following criteria.

746
01:20:13.440 --> 01:20:25.990
The introduction of time limits for parking in the areas determined, the promotion of rotation and rotation and the regime of infractions and sanctions to avoid long parking areas.

747
01:20:26.070 --> 01:20:34.320
Measures in which, based on specific behaviors, inappropriate occupation of public space, waste from dumping or maximum times are adopted.

748
01:20:34.380 --> 01:20:35.700
Ensure legal certainty.

749
01:20:36.810 --> 01:20:43.660
The City Council will carry out a technical study to assess the possibility of enabling one or more regulated parking spaces for motorhomes.

750
01:20:44.020 --> 01:20:50.500
Its objective will be to organize the presence of these vehicles, minimize negative impacts and improve coexistence with the integrals.

751
01:20:51.360 --> 01:21:04.280
The City Council will promote the appropriate signage and carry out the necessary information actions for both residents and users of motorhomes, reinforcing the coordination of the Municipal Guard to ensure the correct application of the regulations.

752
01:21:13.480 --> 01:21:17.190
We worked on the territory, as well as this motion.

753
01:21:17.370 --> 01:21:21.770
We’ve explained it here, but we’ll explain it today.

754
01:21:22.510 --> 01:21:29.330
We don't think it's enough to call it a problem.

755
01:21:29.770 --> 01:21:37.940
At this moment in this City Council it has a more serious problem with other issues, but we do not live it as a problem.

756
01:21:38.220 --> 01:21:53.720
In the City Council we have not received any complaints through the register, and in general there is lately, although people have a contribution or a proposal, and at least through the register we have not received any.

757
01:21:54.280 --> 01:21:55.220
That doesn't mean it.

758
01:21:56.360 --> 01:22:03.640
You don't have to work on the subject, all right, except that you agree and agree.

759
01:22:03.780 --> 01:22:04.550
We're in that demand.

760
01:22:05.440 --> 01:22:08.170
I mean, they're talking about a technical study.

761
01:22:08.190 --> 01:22:10.040
We're doing that test.

762
01:22:11.120 --> 01:22:17.420
You know, that is, the Territorial Organization and the citizens are organized into three working groups.

763
01:22:18.060 --> 01:22:27.350
The Territory team is composed of technicians and municipal police, the Environment team and political leaders.

764
01:22:27.980 --> 01:22:34.430
And on November 26, before introducing this motion, we were working on this issue.

765
01:22:34.450 --> 01:22:59.560
Because the Municipal Guard also knows, they have said that the development of Olagarroondo will force them to make some short-term work with these motorhomes that are located in their servants, because many people are going to start living in this area and the cars are going to occupy that position.

766
01:23:01.300 --> 01:23:13.200
As I say, we were doing this before the motion was tabled, because to know what the current situation is, to make the first decisions and to know a concrete diagnosis.

767
01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:23.280
Number of vans expelled according to the number of days they are in the municipality, number of vans expelled according to the dimensions of the vans that have been registered.

768
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:31.500
Will the City Council also have a location for vehicles of these dimensions, motorhomes, vans?

769
01:23:31.820 --> 01:23:39.030
We are therefore in it, and all this information will be transferred to the Committee on the Territory.

770
01:23:40.430 --> 01:23:41.210
The ordinance.

771
01:23:41.330 --> 01:23:53.300
They have said it expressly in 2025, but when it was approved there are no sections in the motorhome where I referred, but there are other general rules that could be applied.

772
01:23:54.320 --> 01:24:00.560
As we said, we are working on it in a paper, we will take it to the Territorial Commission.

773
01:24:01.190 --> 01:24:04.070
We're not talking about this motion at all.

774
01:24:04.710 --> 01:24:08.520
Or we do not see this issue as a motion at all.

775
01:24:09.720 --> 01:24:15.400
We don't see the evils of taking it to a motion.

776
01:24:15.500 --> 01:24:21.840
To work, yes, but that commitment to work does not have to be ratified, because we are working.

777
01:24:22.410 --> 01:24:36.510
We therefore believe that it is a different place, and that all the contributions you make here are more than welcome, they are put on the table and worked on in the Committee on the Territory.

778
01:24:37.280 --> 01:24:39.850
For all these reasons, we will abstain.

779
01:24:43.090 --> 01:24:43.740
Contain

780
01:24:45.700 --> 01:25:00.290
our group voted in favour of this motion, since some of the issues raised are already included in the current Traffic Ordinance, but it is true that they do not necessarily have the same conditions or approaches as those proposed in the text of the motion.

781
01:25:00.310 --> 01:25:02.850
But, well, we understand the great received.

782
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:06.310
In relation to the preparation of a technical study.

783
01:25:06.320 --> 01:25:12.050
The government team has told us that steps are already being taken in this area.

784
01:25:12.480 --> 01:25:17.350
We see no objection to supporting what is being proposed in the motion.

785
01:25:17.410 --> 01:25:24.600
Can a specific technical study be compatible with what is being done?

786
01:25:30.550 --> 01:25:30.940
I don't know.

787
01:25:34.390 --> 01:25:42.600
First of all, we want to make it clear that no one doubts that the motion we are bringing today has not been made.

788
01:25:43.310 --> 01:25:52.640
It is not a proposal that is made against anyone, let alone a problem that we have invented.

789
01:25:53.180 --> 01:25:58.210
We want to bring to the plenary a reality that is taking place in the town.

790
01:25:58.940 --> 01:26:02.400
And from politics, just a solution to this problem.

791
01:26:03.180 --> 01:26:07.670
And to say that there is no formal complaint from the Registry.

792
01:26:08.370 --> 01:26:12.140
Perhaps this leads to the conclusion that there is no mare in Usurbil.

793
01:26:13.200 --> 01:26:25.900
But the fact that there are no complaints in the Register does not mean that there are no complaints, and that only means that some citizens may simply use two others.

794
01:26:26.730 --> 01:26:35.110
And yes, there are many ways to convey complaints, and we know that there are people who are also calling the Local Police Corps.

795
01:26:36.130 --> 01:26:37.900
And that this is happening in a dizzying way.

796
01:26:38.850 --> 01:26:41.570
It's clearly happening.

797
01:26:41.610 --> 01:26:56.020
In addition, the issue of motorhomes in the neighborhood of Olariondo has raised a concern among its neighbors and, in addition, we know that in some communities of neighbors this issue has also been treated.

798
01:26:57.020 --> 01:26:59.980
They say that the City Council is already working.

799
01:27:00.770 --> 01:27:11.050
And that is fine, and we hope that this issue will be brought here and that it will be regulated and dealt with properly.

800
01:27:11.820 --> 01:27:19.670
EE That then criticism is criticizable, to bring an emotion.

801
01:27:19.750 --> 01:27:21.360
We don't really understand.

802
01:27:22.550 --> 01:27:32.290
We have the right and the obligation to do politics, and the motion allows us to do so, and it also gives way to the concerns of the citizens.

803
01:27:33.770 --> 01:27:44.710
No, we don’t ask for anything strange, we simply ask for what is being done in the other municipalities as well.

804
01:27:45.220 --> 01:27:49.120
And what we want is for what is done elsewhere to be done here as well.

805
01:27:49.510 --> 01:27:50.570
No more, no less.

806
01:27:51.110 --> 01:27:57.090
Application of clear regulations, legal certainty and measures that guarantee coexistence.

807
01:27:57.620 --> 01:27:58.230
Without another particular.

808
01:28:01.470 --> 01:28:05.470
Well, then, if there's nothing else to vote for?

809
01:28:05.490 --> 01:28:06.090
We'll pass.

810
01:28:06.110 --> 01:28:12.720
In favour of the motion on the regularisation of motorhome parking in Usurbil

811
01:28:14.240 --> 01:28:17.210
four votes against Zeru

812
01:28:17.580 --> 01:28:18.440
and abstention

813
01:28:19.100 --> 01:28:20.280
nine abstentions.

814
01:28:20.540 --> 01:28:25.130
Consequently, the motion on the regularization of motorhome parking with the highest proportion of carpentry is approved.

815
01:28:27.040 --> 01:28:27.940
In the last point.

816
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:28.980
Request for Assistance

817
01:28:29.730 --> 01:28:31.080
Ask questions.

818
01:28:31.230 --> 01:28:32.010
He didn't have anything.

819
01:28:32.770 --> 01:28:33.190
I do. I do.

820
01:28:33.290 --> 01:28:35.490
I want to bring a theme.

821
01:28:36.300 --> 01:28:37.850
And it's not a new topic.

822
01:28:38.690 --> 01:28:40.250
In this plenary session.

823
01:28:40.650 --> 01:28:44.660
I want to bring back the pediatrician's subject.

824
01:28:44.860 --> 01:28:51.620
October in Usurbil, because we have not had a pediatrician since January 12.

825
01:28:52.400 --> 01:28:58.770
This situation has already been brought to the attention of the parents.

826
01:28:58.830 --> 01:29:01.140
There are a few days.

827
01:29:01.800 --> 01:29:09.290
Well, it's going to be a week and a half since our parents warned us that there was no pediatrician.

828
01:29:09.350 --> 01:29:09.990
Usurbil

829
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:25.840
The pediatrician who was there until then seems to have obtained some other position in another region and has gone there, so they are being referred to the outpatient clinic of Lasarte.

830
01:29:26.300 --> 01:29:35.320
That the pediatrician of Lasarte came once a week, especially the review of young children, newborns, doing some basic things.

831
01:29:36.220 --> 01:29:44.840
Before this, they went to the City Council to see if the City Council had any other information.

832
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:59.270
Well, in relation to the last motion, the head of Donostialdeko Osi undertook to inform the City of Usurbil, not the citizens of Usurbil, of what it was going to be in the face of any incident.

833
01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:07.760
In addition, here, that was one of the points that was called for in that September motion.

834
01:30:08.270 --> 01:30:10.480
Well, it didn't happen again.

835
01:30:11.020 --> 01:30:19.340
It has cost us a lot to be able to talk again with the head of Primary Care of Donostia.

836
01:30:20.380 --> 01:30:36.920
Yesterday we managed to talk to each other and say that he confirmed to me that the information we received from the parents, that is, that since January 12 there is no information.

837
01:30:37.430 --> 01:30:55.110
Well, his words were also said that in the short term he did not see an easy solution, because at this moment he does not have resources in Donostialdea Osia, he does not have staff to send him to Usurbil.

838
01:30:56.730 --> 01:31:04.420
Therefore, in the face of this situation, it is said that the Governing Body of Osakidetza was just yesterday.

839
01:31:04.440 --> 01:31:10.290
I don't know what the Directorate General's name is, and he just took this matter there.

840
01:31:10.770 --> 01:31:27.800
Because, at this time, since he does not have the resources to fill the position of pediatrician in Usurbil, it is up to the General Directorate of Osakidetza to decide to transfer someone from another place to cover the position of pediatrician in Usurbil.

841
01:31:28.930 --> 01:31:37.660
Then I told him that this information would once again be transmitted to the citizens through the mouth of the City Council.

842
01:31:38.140 --> 01:31:50.880
He is aware, and I told him, again among his parents, that among the population there is anger with the situation, discomfort with it.

843
01:31:51.420 --> 01:32:24.100
I told him again, and I also told him that we are going to send a letter to the Director General of Osakidetza, telling him what the situation in Usurbil is and asking him to take effective measures. For Usurbil we understand that the pediatric service is a basic service, for Usurbil there are 1,500 inhabitants, and that this basic service must be guaranteed.

844
01:32:24.200 --> 01:32:33.310
That this Usurbil must have a pediatrician of reference, not different pediatricians every month, of course, a Basque pediatrician.

845
01:32:33.660 --> 01:32:36.210
And we're still in this situation.

846
01:32:36.650 --> 01:32:42.940
I believe that this is not a coincidence because of the structural problem that Osakidetza is experiencing.

847
01:32:43.620 --> 01:32:49.010
The lack of organization, the lack of foresight.

848
01:32:49.420 --> 01:33:05.110
We were here five months ago in this situation, and five months later we are still the same, not worse, because at the moment there is no one to fill the position of pediatrician in Usurbil, and therefore he cannot.

849
01:33:05.620 --> 01:33:15.790
And I have no doubt that it is the will and will of the head of Hunger in Donostialdea to comply with this as soon as possible, and that he is doing so.

850
01:33:15.850 --> 01:33:23.490
I do not question this, but this is an indicator of existing shortcomings.

851
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:29.380
And when there are shortcomings, he can't send the resource as he would like.

852
01:33:29.400 --> 01:33:32.650
And I know he wants to, but they say it's worse.

853
01:33:32.830 --> 01:33:35.110
Before he had resources and now he doesn't have them.

854
01:33:35.300 --> 01:33:36.700
And, therefore, worse.

855
01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:38.180
And they are his words.

856
01:33:38.660 --> 01:33:39.790
We're in a difficult situation.

857
01:33:40.150 --> 01:33:44.130
Those were his words to communicate yesterday.

858
01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:52.320
Today we have also seen that there has been a male or not on the part of the parents.

859
01:33:52.380 --> 01:33:53.100
Where do I go?

860
01:33:53.180 --> 01:33:54.600
i read it today.

861
01:33:54.720 --> 01:33:57.950
[Application for the replacement of pediatrician in health science].

862
01:33:58.490 --> 01:34:00.000
There's some movement.

863
01:34:00.310 --> 01:34:03.180
We got to talk yesterday.

864
01:34:03.240 --> 01:34:08.640
I bring it to the plenary that I mentioned just yesterday at noon.

865
01:34:08.660 --> 01:34:13.680
And coincidentally, today we have seen that the parents have also taken note of some note from their side.

866
01:34:14.150 --> 01:34:19.720
Well, that's what I wanted to convey, that in this situation this is the situation.

867
01:34:23.030 --> 01:34:24.480
If you want to talk about something.

868
01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:30.960
The structural problem you mentioned in Osakidetza.

869
01:34:31.440 --> 01:34:37.590
I think it's a general lack of doctors.

870
01:34:37.810 --> 01:34:39.190
Not just in Osakidetza.

871
01:34:39.650 --> 01:34:54.160
Doctors are missing everywhere, and in this case, that square in Usurbil has been left alone when there is a pediatrician, and when he wants to come to Usurbil, then he will come.

872
01:34:57.570 --> 01:35:00.860
Osakidetza can't take a person, and you're good.

873
01:35:02.210 --> 01:35:03.820
That doesn't work.

874
01:35:03.860 --> 01:35:08.830
If you want to sell like this and make populisms like this, Well, go ahead.

875
01:35:08.870 --> 01:35:11.490
But Osakidetza doesn’t work that way.

876
01:35:11.820 --> 01:35:17.740
And in the face of that loneliness, the lack of doctors?

877
01:35:19.520 --> 01:35:20.050
well, I don't know.

878
01:35:20.110 --> 01:35:20.730
I think so

879
01:35:23.660 --> 01:35:31.390
throw more wood into the fire on a problem, give more to the fire today.

880
01:35:32.440 --> 01:35:35.820
Words are populism.

881
01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:46.560
I have given an information about what the situation is, and I have said that if this structural problem is populist, you have seen it.

882
01:35:46.660 --> 01:35:54.110
Here we also carry out studies on the situation, and yet, in our opinion, a conclusion.

883
01:35:55.470 --> 01:36:01.910
But is that not being populist and, therefore, if you have deduced this from my words?

884
01:36:02.110 --> 01:36:04.520
well, that's why I'm telling you that this is not populism.

885
01:36:06.070 --> 01:36:15.090
And it is that at the moment we are missing a basic service in Usurbil, which is not a new situation, which comes from a long time ago.

886
01:36:15.450 --> 01:36:18.450
And the worst thing is that this situation is being chronicled.

887
01:36:18.770 --> 01:36:28.080
And things are chronicled because previously there are not enough resources to prepare structures so as not to chronicle situations.

888
01:36:28.380 --> 01:36:28.680
Ya dago.

889
01:36:28.700 --> 01:36:34.000
This is my opinion and it is a reflection of the situation in which we find ourselves.

890
01:36:34.690 --> 01:36:35.600
Showing that.

891
01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:38.010
They don’t want populism.

892
01:36:38.570 --> 01:36:41.280
Yes, but did you say you provided the information?

893
01:36:42.400 --> 01:36:49.560
Well, I've told you a threat, not to call it populism, because I don't do populism.

894
01:36:49.660 --> 01:36:52.980
You said you gave the information, and you didn't.

895
01:36:53.080 --> 01:37:02.290
Apart from the information, you have given an interested opinion on behalf of a political party.

896
01:37:02.510 --> 01:37:05.580
Yes, but have you given an interested opinion?

897
01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:08.220
You don’t just provide objective information.

898
01:37:09.500 --> 01:37:10.740
Don't get it.

899
01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:14.990
But here you say that you have only said objective information, Ze, then you have given your opinion.

900
01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:17.120
And that opinion?

901
01:37:17.440 --> 01:37:21.680
We think this is out of place, and also exaggerated.

902
01:37:22.140 --> 01:37:28.460
Well, I've told you that I've given you some information and I've made a conclusion and an assessment of the situation.

903
01:37:28.480 --> 01:37:33.220
I have told you this, I have confessed to you, I have said that the situation is due to a structural problem.

904
01:37:34.420 --> 01:37:38.930
I told you to call it populist from there, there's a big jump, too.

905
01:37:38.950 --> 01:37:42.620
I told you, so I mean, they don't even have a few words.

906
01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:45.590
Political debate is always enriching.

907
01:37:46.120 --> 01:37:50.170
But, of course, some criticisms, which I will not accept either.

908
01:37:50.190 --> 01:37:52.480
And I've told you before to call it populist.

909
01:37:52.500 --> 01:37:53.960
I told you I'm not going to accept that.

910
01:37:55.650 --> 01:37:56.010
Ready. Ready.

911
01:37:58.940 --> 01:38:01.430
If there's nothing else, we'll finish up here.